IF YOU TRADE WITH EDWARD JONES
BRING WITNESSES OR VASELINE I DIDN’T |
ESPECIALLY with Matt “I TRIED TO DO YOU A FAVOR (not selling) AND I GET BIT IN THE ASS--I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR EIGHT YEARSAND NEVER HAD ANYTHING HAPPEN LIKE THIS BEFORE--I MIGHT HAVE TO PAY THIS OUT OF MY OWN POCKET-- I WANT YOU TO LEAVE THE OFFICE WHILE I CALL MY BOSS …” Skogen.
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NOTICE: I’ve been made aware that even: “If” true, and “they” are crooked, cheatin’, stealin’, lyin’, theivin’ sons of bitches * I can’t say “that”- so I won’t. Also covers similar post (2-4-06)
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Or Richard L.FRULAND of the so called
Compliance Dept. St. Louis, Mo. [and I lost $1,950]. Also
Ref: pertinent info in 2 nd Hi-Lited portion of letter to ed.
5-9-02 Nov. 22, 05 post; if so inclined.
*Sometimes used interjectionally to express surprise or disappointment (Webster’s)
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I’m not complaining, just ruminating about the $22,000 loss. “IT’S THE $1,950…” The $22K loss is just a part of the chance you take when investing, and being a lazy and inattentive investor; which is almost as good as one who is churnable (sic) [for the broker that is]. Every time I would ask about the Putnam High Yield, oh, you are getting 14.2 % - 12.8 % - 8.7 % etc., etc. on your “initial investment”; is “initial investment” the CATCHPHRASE here? But I was always getting a great return??? To be able to lose $22K on “initial investment of $10K is pretty good huh? Better than some of “them” oil related tax shelters; except for the fact, this and a couple of other brilliant investments I made; I might not live long enough to use the carryover loss at $3K a year. I guess I “WAS” a little too trusting, and gullible/naïve in thinking the “High Yield” was for me, NOT Putnam and the broker. (Revised 2-24-06)
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Edward Jones
Serving Individual Investors Since 1871 |
**How well I know, and noVaseline**
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Copied verbatim from printed letter of June 2, 2000
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June 2, 2000
Attn: Tim Kelly
Compliance Dept.
Edward Jones
12555 Manchester Rd.
St. Louis, MO 63131
1-800-441-2357
Apr. 28, 2000 About 11:30 a.m. (as per enclosed note from Edward Jones) I wanted to sell both Liberty accounts, and my Putnam account “THAT DAY.” It was my understanding it would be sold at that days closing. Liberty closed @ $10.25 Putnam @ $9.90 I received $9.79 on May 10, 2000 for Liberty and $9.92 for Putnam. (I thought on May 8, 2000 more on that saga later) and the proceeds sent in 7 days.
Apr. 29, 2000 When I received “The Note” I took it as advice; to seek tax advice and nothing more. NOT that my order had not been sold. I question Matt’s concern to wit: I know I can roll over IRA’s, and have 8-10 or more times, and have 60 days to do it in (I’ve never paid a penalty) whether I was 19 or 70 should not have been an issue. The fact is I wanted out of the market that day! I knew I had at least $60,000 (my cost) in Putnam (actual $72,763.60) so capital gains, was not a great concern.
May 8, 2000 After 10 days, and no check, I went to see what was going on; and found out “THEY” hadn’t been sold I wasn’t too pleased.
You might want to explain to Matt how T + 3 works, and about doing an exchange (money fund)
May 9, 2000 Went to Quad Cities USA looking for your regional or district office-said Burlington was Region #8, and didn’t know where office was, but to call back next day.
May 10, 2000 Went to Washington, IA Regional office, as I am very concerned about my loss on Liberty Funds. Mr. David Bruns; was fair, open, and up front ( a credit to any organization) he called Tim Kelly of Compliance Dept. and talked briefly about my dispute. Mr. Bruns convinced me, that the compliance record was pretty good (my interpretation) and to go ahead sell Liberty “THAT DAY”, and then to file complaint in writing attn: Mr. Tim Kelly
May 18, 2000 Called Putnam to find out where my money was. “THEY” informed me that sale was on hold—I’m not real pleased at this news, and I call Tim Kelly, and he agreed to wire money if I had bank routing numbers.
May 19, 2000 Get bank routing numbers, and after several phone calls, received “money wire” thanks to “Paul” who was very helpful.
June 2, 2000 I think the enclosed 5 copies pretty well explains everything. If not I can certainly give you the long version.
Ronald L. Thornton
406 S. 14 th
Keithsburg, IL 61442
5 Enclosures
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Re: Jones/Fruland Letter 6-27-00
There was no more than 3 phone calls in the 45 mins. m/l while I was there; two of them didn’t amount to anything (in time), third one was some guy asking for “Stock quotes” and after a number of them, she told him that she was with a customer and would call him back.
“ NOTHING” about coming back—if she told me to come back Monday—Why did she write the note (4-28-00)? And try to call me?
I DID NOT leave abruptly— SHE TYPED UP BOTH PUTNAM AND LIBERTY SELL ORDERS WHILE I WAS THERE and said "PRICE WOULD BE AT THE DAY'S CLOSING PRICE asked what I wanted done with proceeds?" (I told her to send them to me)
Also subject: sell Putnam and Liberty
I was going to tell the “monkey” in St. Louis, (but that may be slanderous to the real monkeys.) The difference between subject “SELL” in 4-28-00 note and your 6-27-00 letter THAT YOU CLAIM THAT I WAS THERE TO “DISCUSS” which you’re quite aware is total BS.
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Can you subpoena Edward Jones/Matt Skogen office records/computer tape of 4-28-2000?
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Comments:
Ref: Note of 4-28-00 "Subject Sell Putnam & Liberty" that I received 4-29-00 from the BOA (branch office assistant) of Edward Jones' Local Office, 317 N. Main, Burlington, IA, 52601. Matt Skogen-Registered Rep.
1. True I wasn't 59 ½... same as I wasn't 21... (my D.O.B. is 3/18/40)
2. Capital gains tax was not a big concern, as I knew I had a substantial loss. I figured a loss of $16,806.66 on the Putnam Hi Yield; taxman/CPA said it was $22,654.60 (I certainly hope being a CPA he knows more than me)CORRECTION (3/1/06) $22,655 ( CPA rounds, I don't)
3. And more pertinent--- nowhere in the note does it mention NOT SELLING STOCK!!!
4. Believe me, had I known it wasn't sold; I would have been at their front door, when they arrived Monday morning 5-1-00.
5. While at David Bruns office of Edward Jones, Washington, Iowa, 5-10-00 he called Tim Kelly, head of the Compliance Dept. (he didn’t tell or ask me to leave while he called) and briefed him of my concerns of course only hearing one half of the conversation he replied “yeah, the BOA (Branch Office Assistant) probably said too much" ( Re: 4/28/00 note)
6. Friday forenoons must be slow in the brokerage business as Matt was busy "GOLFING!"

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Received this letter from R.L Fruland (6-30-2000) and returning it the same day with the notation to Tim Kelly, [Head of] Compliance Dept., St. Louis, MO.
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After callingMr.Fruland (6/30/00) and identifying myself and ask: do you take me for a complete F***IN’ IDIOT? His reply: “ooh, aah, umm.” (as in primate speak)
Now if Edward Jones would be so kind; to provide me a copy of that tape; for verification. I will be, well on my way, to collect that $250 thousand reward that was recently mentioned in The Hawk Eye.
If “they” (Edward Jones) don’t like this post; in a future post, I “might” tell the lyin’ thievin’ sons of bitches * what I really think/feel.
*Sometimes used interjectionally to express surprise or disappointment (Webster’s)