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"THE DREAD THORNTON CASE"
SUMMER, '07 "AND THE LIVIN' IS EASY"
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These posts by me: are from The Hawk Eye Chatterbox; as I want to “save” them for posterity or at least as long as my website is up.
Also have the feeling, (but had it before and been wrong) that the Chatterbox will be dropped or changed sooner [rather] than later—due to spam and other reasons. “IF” that happens; Tim Scott, Pat Jackson, et al. will be dancin’ on Washington Street.
Ron Thornton
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Ron Thornton
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 130
Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: "Knee deep in the sewer"
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Quote from article re: council work session (T-H-E 8/28/07)
... Scott said "I don't want to keep beating my head against the wall on this." [sewer fee]
Ah, if it was only true and literal. ---Like "I'M THE MAYOR of BURLINGTON" > belly-buttin'< |
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Rfields
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject:
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There once was a man from Shishonnee
Whose nemesis was the opposite of bony
He ranted and raved
But our time would be saved
If he wasn't just a one trick pony |
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Ron Thornton
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
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Ron Thornton
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 131
Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
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Ron Thornton
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 128
Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: "Citizens sound off on quiet zone"
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Re: excerpt from "Citizens sound off..." (T-H-E online 8/21/07)
... confronted Scott about the remark. [sex offenders] Scott said the comment wasn't directed at...(yeah, I believe that )
Unlike Tim Scott's assertion; mine are directed straight at Mr. Scott, maybe you can add: Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Violation of Civil Rights and more to the list.
Aside: if Rfields thinks my tune is getting old, article said: T. O. was convicted in 1995. That pre-dates my "saga" by five years. |
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Ron Thornton
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 147
Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: Eight seek council seat
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Excerpt: from "Eight seek council seat" (T-H-E 6/21/07)
Councilman Tim Scott said,...
"I've had a lot of people ask if it could be videotaped. I will talk to the city manager about that," Scott said.
If only someone had of "videotaped," the BELLY-BUTTIN' "I'M THE MAYOR of BURLINGTON."
For the one or two, that knowest not, [what] thy speaketh; details can be found elsewhere. |
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Ron Thornton
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Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: "Eight seek council seat"
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Guess Who, I guess you seen the photo, (that gives new meaning to, top of fold) also. (T-H-E 10/4/06)
PS I.m lucky to-be alive.  |
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Ron Thornton
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 147
Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
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Ron Thornton
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 147
Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: "Council looks..."
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Keith, at first I missed the ref. on your post; as your post "Steamboat Days and photography" ( on, General Discussion 6/15/07 ) was covered before I seen it...Could the City be putting testosterone in the water system? 
Great pic. of Ferris wheel, as well as the rest of pic's. on your website. |
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Ron Thornton
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: "City eyes top picks"
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Excerpt: from "City eyes top picks" (T-H-E online 6/29/07)
"What I am looking for is someone who is honest...," Councilman Garry Thomas said.
Why It proved to-be no great hindrance to Tim Scott being elected. |
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Ron Thornton
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
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Ron Thornton
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject:
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Not sure of your post, "Played...so played" Played out? Exhausted?
Bottom line: till Tim Scott comes clean, I will hammer him at every opportunity, he presents. |
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Ron Thornton
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Location: Keithsburg, IL. |
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject:
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PS. If The Hawk Eye had done their job Tim Scott "WOULD NOT" be in ANY office. |
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Ron Thornton
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject:
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PPS. Believe it or not I'm pretty much a live and let live type of guy...Till someone puts the screws to me.
PPPS. Maybe The Hawk Eye can "commute" Tim Scott  |
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Ron Thornton
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:08 am Post subject:
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Guess Who, kinda reminds me of the BPD video cameras; when "they" think it's to their benefit "they" have "it"---BUT, when it's not "they" feign? ignorance. Isn't that right Officer Zahn/233  |
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(Tweaked June 18, 2007)
“DRAGGED APART, MY ASS”
RE: Burlington Police Department Supplemental Narrative. By Lt. Darren Grimshaw
I cringe every time I read about a case involving him, in the paper. This is what Burlington taxpayers get for $50,000 plus a year? What a poor excuse for a public servant; the City could hire some residents from the nursing homes for half that amount. I mean no disrespect to the residents of nursing homes, after all the ones with memory loss, is real and they came by it “HONESTLY”; unlike the Wormy Weasel.
I figured surely by now he would be under 24-hour supervision; requiring complete custodial care due to his accelerated loss of memory, if it deteriorated as much as it did from the time of my arrest, to the time of my trial 9 months and 3 days later. Of course I shouldn’t have been surprised after all with just the amount of memory loss from the time of the incident on 7/14/00 @ 5:10 p.m. till the time of “BPD Supplemental Narrative” 7/17/00 @ 2:09 p.m. .
AND I’m being “VERY CHARITABLE” to call “IT” a fine example of creative writing. [At my trial] he used the old Reagan/ Gonzalez and Fuhrman defense “I don’t remember/recall” [background: Mark Fuhrman was lead detective on O.J. Simpson case, after several days of being prepped by prosecutors, when questioned by F. Lee Bailey, Fuhrman could not recall even one question that was asked by the prosecutors.]
I can even understand why Scott and Skogen lied, (to cover their ass) [There’s “a distinct possibility” I might have mentioned their names elsewhere.] BUT I can’t understand the Wormy Weasel’s reasoning. I wonder if it’s remnants of being a Blue-Light Special associate or a used car salesman.
I know he has few racing buddies; don’t take my word for it, look him in the eye and ask him about it, see if his memory has improved any.
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My questions are a FACTUALREPRESENTATION of the INCIDENT / TRIAL
Q’s by Ron Thornton A’s by Darren Grimshaw
Q: Did you tap me on the shoulder two or three times and ask “what’s was going on?” [ See related sidebar] A: “I don’t remember.”
Q: Getting no reply from me did you then identify yourself as a Police officer? And said break it up, and I answered oh, ok. A: “I don’t remember.”
Q: Did Tim Scott immediately after getting up from the flower bed, that he was lying in, say to you ARREST HIM, ARREST HIM, two or three times? A: “I don’t remember.”
Q: Did I look you over from head to toe as you were in street clothes and you must have guessed what I was thinking, and said you were off duty. A: “I don’t remember.”
Q: Did you ask me what the deal was? And I answered it’s a long story and you answered “Give me the short version” and I started telling you when two other police cars came you told me to stand-by? And left to hear THE MAYOR’S VERSION. A: “I don’t remember.”
AND THAT WAS THE END OF “ANY” FACT FINDING, “TILL” I’M ON MY WAY TO JAIL!
Related sidebar: Mr. Scott laying flat on his back in the flower bed (shrubbery), I was on my knees trying to pound the piss out of him, I thought it was rather apparent that I was trying to kill the son of a bitch; especially to the trained eye of a professional. [Note: Insert sarcasm here] That’s why I didn’t answer Grimshaw when he asked “What’s going on.”
Scott on the witness stand, in the persona of a macho/big man: (voice/character) contrast with "whiney 5 yr. old" [maybe Mr. Scott missed his calling as a Thespian] testifying about releasing his hold. What hold, I’m not aware of, sure the hell wasn’t any hold on me, possibly the family jewels? [his]
My attorney (ex) asked what I wanted from the case or take for me to settle/plea bargain, etc. Me: If he (Scott) put a bullet through his head, and I wouldn’t quibble over the direction, front to back, left to right, right to left. . . He said: “DON’T BE SAYING THAT SHIT!”
Well that’s the way I felt then and that’s the way I still feel.
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Compare this to the ‘macho’ BURLINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL NARRATIVE by Lt. Grimshaw, or what I call “DRAGGED APART, MY ASS.”



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